Standpipe Crowding

We have discussed standpipes in the past, but I think it is worth mentioning again. Standpipes in large and high rise buildings are our water source. It is important to know the location of these devices and to ensure that they are not obstructed.

In addition we need to know and understand if they have pressure reducing devices and how that affects our operations.  Study up on these systems and know how to adapt and trouble shoot the stand pipes in your area.

The picture shown is a stand pipe in a hotel. I went to ice in the hotel I was staying in and this was right next to the ice machine.  I didn't measure it, but this standpipe would be very difficult to connect to. Additionally, if we did get connected with hose only, there would certainly be a kink at the coupling, further reducing our pressure.  

This might be a time when we would try to put an elbow on the connection prior to connecting our hose.  However, I think that with this particular standpipe connection, it would be a stretch just to get the elbow connected as well.

Know your buildings and their systems. Prepare for these types of problems and come up with solutions before you have a fire. Thanks for reading and train hard.



  • Bill Hawthorne says:

    Dear Fire Fighters Own Worst Enemy,
    I just have a qucik question for you, please email me back at the attached address.

  • Freddie says:

    Wow. As you stated in the thread, the space available to connect a hose (eiter 1.75 or 2.5 inches) just isn't there. If a line is needed, I guess the drywall below and/or around the area must be removed. Probably the easiest and fastest bet.

  • Regarding standpipe crowding, It is a problem and it can be found in a variety of configurations.  Hose cabinets, wall mounts, stairwells and also just like the photo.  A nice way to solve this problem without a costly reconstruction of walls and holding cabinets is::  The building owner must provide a threaded hose adapter/extention/elbo or the like.  The extention-elbo can be fixed or it can just be in the cabinet or set back attached to a chain to prevent theft.  Speaking of theft of fire department connections has a solution.

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Deputy Chief/Fire Marshal with the Sullivan Fire Protection District, a combination department, and a career firefighter/paramedic with the Florissant Valley Fire Protection District in North St. Louis County.

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