Attack the Doors: Part 2

Remember these doors……?

Well, since posting these doors and asking how to force them, I have been inundated with requests for a view from the inside.

When I took these pictures originally, we were training on the roof of a vacant Value City building and were not sure about permission to actually enter the building.

So, since then we were granted permission to make entry, using our Knox Box keys, and take a look around.  I found the interior side of these doors to be interesting.

This is the view from the interior of those doors from the original post.

Does this view change anything that you might have thought about doing in regards to forcible entry?

The drop bar is not in place and that is how we found it.  It looks pretty harmless from this side of the door.

But, we did take a look at another set of doors that you might be interested in and they might be more of a challenge.

Take a look at these…..

What is your first impression with this set of doors?

Concerns or difficulties that you can see?

These are not too disimilar form the other set of doors.

Here is what the inside looks like……

Okay, there you have it and let us know what you see and what you would do.

Are there any special considerations that you see or would like to share?

Again, post your comments and share your knowledge, we really appreciate it.

Stay safe and train hard.

1 Comment

  • Jay,

    Ah, very nice. Glad to see you got in to get a view of the inside. To answer your questions and elaborate a little:

    Does this view change anything that you might have thought about doing in regards to forcible entry?

    This does not change anything in my plan, as the plan that I used compensated for if the drop bar was not in place. Giving this door a shot with the irons first is certainly the way to go, and will pop the ONE panic hardware latch VERY EASILY. Performing the “Power Saw/Framing Square Plunge Cut” is a crap-shoot on this door. You could feasibly perform 3 or 4 plunge cuts across both doors and still miss the panic arm. Additionally, you can see a keyway in the panic hardware. If that panic bar is LOCKED, the Power Saw/Framing Square Plunge Cut is a complete WASTE OF TIME.

    Questions with the new door:

    What is your first impression with this set of doors?
    I am going to treat this door exactly like the other one. This one appears to not have any additional locking devices on it (because you wouldn’t know what the inside looks like initially). Again, using the irons, I would start in the center of the door with the same procedures explained on the Attack the Doors: Part 1. Although these slide-bolts are very substantial, they are only sheet-metal screwed to the door (no carriage heads are showing on the outside of the door). Again, the locks along the seam where the two doors come together should be relatively easy.

    Again note, as I stated on Attack the Doors: Part 1: The Power Saw/Framing Square Plunge Cut is useless here. A huge WASTE OF TIME, and that technique will FAIL. It is a VERY LIMITED technique that everyone wants to use because it is “new” and “cool”. Stick to what works!

    Concerns or difficulties that you can see?
    Each door also has a bolt that throws into the header and a foot-bolt into the floor. Both of these can still be defeated with the irons (especially the top bolt). The foot-bolt (if deep seated), can be taken care of by gapping the door at the bottom (driving the forks under), and running a saw (with the blade in the outboard position) to flush-cut under the door and through the bolt.

    That’s it bro. Great series!

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